If only i wouldn't have wasted time actually looking up Tropius to be 100% sure, lol. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still useful for inside caves!) Give Raichu Flash, Dig, Rock Smash, and Strength. Wishcash holds a special place in my heart thanks to its involvement in the old Mystery Dungeon games, and the fact that it looks like a stoned Pokémon version of Wario. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. R. . Bibarel can actually learn all the HMs except fly. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that. Sign in with the following networks. <_<Tropius + Sharpedo. Generally, when they're available, Bibarel and Tropius make superb HM slaves. Give him Fly, Rock Smash, Strength, and Cut. " Element-17 Tropius + Tentacool also have all 8 HMs and Golduck much rarer than Tentacool. Get a Bibarel and Pelipper. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "The best HM slave". If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersPut your HM slave to a special box for future references. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:For Pokemon Emerald Version on the Game Boy Advance, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "best hm slaves?". >_> And don't say "lol 4x Ice weakness". Cut, Surf, and Strength. Tropius (Japanese: トロピウス / Tropius) is a dual-type Grass/Flying Pokémon, and one of the official Pokémon featured in Pokémon Vega. If there's an EXP Share like XY then it'll be easy to level him up. if you have access to sinnoh and trading, definately these 2. Tropius is only good as an HM Slave. ROCK CLIMB on Conkeldurr. Train a Tangela. KokyuDosa14 years ago#6. But reading this thread Tropius seems like a better choice then Farfetch'd. Rudoku. In Sinnoh, I used Bidoof. Pelliper Surf Fly Defog. tropius because it also learns cut, flash, sweet scent, strength, and rock smash which are all useful in-game moves for an hm slave. You can get a Bidoof very early in-game, and Bibarel pop up not long after. Those two between them can use every HM, I think. . I think mew can learn them all but it's better to use a bibarel and something else that can use defog. I was curious about what it would evolve to. Just the quality of life features it offers would be enough, but Radical Red amps it up a notch by increasing the difficulty severely, being updated to Gen 8 in terms of movepool. Chinchou has Surf, Waterfall, Dive, Flash. This is why we need HMs back. By the way, you don't have the HM Dive in Fire Red and Leaf Green, so if you have a Tropius there, you can choose to use your TM28 on a water pokémon like Psyduck,. So, er, where do I get tropius? damn its been a long time lol. if you don't, golduck and furret are a good tandem. The latter being an option if you did not pick mudkip. Tropius is a bit hard to find. Other than that I think the rest are interchangeable. Stay metal my brothers and sisters!!! m/. A more practical solution is a combo of Farfetch'd (Cut/Fly) and Pikachu (the other 3). CUT on Serperior. 5. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. He receives STAB on Strength, and Surf In-Game is a funny way to defeat Rock/Ground types without wasting Earthquake TM26 on Tauros. tropius is also a good hm slave. Vancityriot • 13 yr. Apparently, its love for fruit resulted in its own outgrowth of fruit. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. Smeargle, Tropius, Mew. i use tropius and wailord. Hm slaves - Pelliper and Geodude Competative (Smogon OU) Clefable (Bold, cm, T-wave), Lopunny (Mega), Landorous T (Bulky rocker/breaker),. Thanks in advance. <". We need some HM slave appreciation. Safari=Dwebble, Pupitar and Shuckle. Wingull meanwhile is 'nearer' in R120 or within Lilycove itself, and the OP's original statement was: "I need the NEAREST Pokemon that can learn fly". As long as there aren't any new HMs, I'll be happy. Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. )-Sliced. It can learn dive, waterfall and strength. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. tropius is also a good hm slave. This topic contains spoilers - you can click, tap, or highlight to reveal themI used a Tropius with Fly, Rock Smash, Cut, and Strength. I went to Route 4 to try and find some Kanto Pokemon. Devilish_Dave 15 years ago #10Introduction. 1 of 2 Go to page. From Lilycove, Tropius requires backtracking through R120 > Fortree City > R119. 2. Anyway I am playing PkM Silver right now, so I thought what Pokemon wold be best for HM slave for gen2 PkM games, or gen3, gen1 ;153;Who, in your opinion, is the best hm slave? I'm using the Shiny gyarados (Rock Smash, Strength, Surf, and Whirlpool) Pokemon Black FC: 2666 1617 9618. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersIf you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI got lucky enough to get a Tropius through GTS Negotiations for a female Eevee I caught in Castelia City. I used an Excadrill of Cut and Strength, and a Swanna for Fly, Surf, and Dive. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. Tropius is pretty useful. - It's also terrible cause some HMs are terrible moves. Yeah, it's not very useful in battle with those moves, but as long as you have Pickup it's a constant source of items that you can, at the very least, sell. :) My Emerald slaves were Zigzagoon and Spheal (with Flygon covering Fly) talli_ho on March 10th, 2010 09:22 pm (UTC) I'm a noob that doesn't have an HM slave. SURF on Greninja. Latias is my HM slave in Alpha Sapphire. You never know if there are cheating devices lurking in. Thanks, I actually didn't even realize!!! If I can ask another question, what are your thoughts on this lineup: Swampert, Gardevoir, Aggron, Salamence, Breloom (not sure about this one), and Tropius as an HM slave? I'm not really sure about Breloom tbh, and I'm also considering adding Flygon just for fun. Rather than checking their Pokedex pages, instead I can go on the HM Slave page and enter "Ludicolo" and "Tropius", and it'll show up as Tropius being able to learn Cut and Fly, while Ludicolo can learn Surf, Strength, Waterfall and Dive, and the last HM - Rock Smash. You can get it in the Pokewalker (Big Forest) in HG/SS. Plus it get's the ability Pick-up. For Pokemon Sun on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "what do you use as your HM slave?" - Page 2. 3DS FC: 1891 1187 4587 White 2 FC: 1765 0547 5604. Since i got a latias that covers surf which is like half the HM i use all the time(The other being fly lol). Do you guys usually keep your HM slaves with you and only fight with 4 good pokemon and then use the other 2 just for HMs? Mario Maker 2: SteveKoopa: ID 6K7-PR2-TWG Smash Ultimate Mains: Samus, Lucas, Jokerwhat's a good HM slave for this game? I prefer one the know cut, strength, fly, and Rock Smash/ Flash. Stats. Hiyakkie on the other hand can learn Surf, Waterfall, and Dive. "I have a three years of experience and a degree in this field. Bibarel is god tier HM Slave. Dk bout other gens but Gen I you can do Slowpoke/bro and Farfetch’d. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. Pokemon Platinum would look so good with 2. Haha I think I just remembered from the Gyarados + Tropius HM slave pairing in Gen 3. "One does not sell the earth upon which the people walk. ShadowBlastoise 7. Every Pokemon has a use, and Bibarel's is being the HM slave grandmaster. Darth_Mom 15 years ago #2. Attacks. I won't name the movesets because I don't think it necessary. To Sharpedos and Linoones everywhere, we say thankyou. ANYONE IS FREE TO JOIN! These are playthrough logs for KinglerMaster (t∣b∣c), CSketch (t∣b∣c), TheFireDragoon (t∣b∣c), GamingDylan (t∣b∣c), PrimalFan (t∣b∣c) and NovaPen (t∣b∣c) for the Pokemon game Pokemon Platinum Version. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. Sessy UNoT Extreme Mooomber Posts: 2349. Definitely needs a glow-up. I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. Waterfall, Dive and Cut, then Tropius with Flash, Strength, Fly and Rock Smash. There have been changes to the pronoun field in user profiles. The only Hoenn Pokemon who might make a better HM mule than Ludicolo is Crawdaunt. And a Dragonite with Fly, Defog, Cut, Whirlpool. Despite these setbacks, the devs blessed Tropius with a powerful evolution in Pokémon Procyon and Pokémon Deneb. 1. O. Business, Economics, and Finance. Zigzagoon covers the early HMs and Tentacool covers all Water type HMs. If I were able to wage threats of physical violence on whoever revamped these trainer battles, believe me I most certainly would. Tropius - Cut / Fly / Strength / Rock Smash Rayquaza - Fly / Surf / Strength / Waterfall / Rock Smash / Dive Fast Money Trainer's Eye: When rematching these trainers, you will automatically face their strongest team if you have defeated the Elite Four. This^ seriously, go sharpedo and tropius or go home. 5D graphics like in Octopath Traveler. . Bibarel and Tropius, perfect synergy of HM slave. Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. How about a regional form? Nibounium • 4 mo. but they're probably not what you're looking for. FC: 5344-0470-3833. Tropius lvl. machamp. 4 Greninja. elite-4; emerald; gen-3; asked Sep 25, 2021 by mathtodd05. TengYt 14 years ago #15. The Temporary HM Slave is for Fly and Defog until you can get a Tropius from Pastoria's Great Marsh (Areas 1 & 2). The game is way faster this way and with the 2 mules I never have to worry for HM. Gyarados: Surf, Waterfall, Dive, RockSmash Tropius: Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash Smeargle: Fly, Surf, Dig, Teleport (very useful if you only. HM slave Reply gwaenchanh-a. Whatever the choice, don't be that guy who constantly switches Pokemon in and out the PC every time you need to use an HM move. Tropius is also one of the absolute best HM slaves, and its attack and special attack are about equal and acceptable for that point in the game. Stuff like Azumarill, Gyarados, Tentacool, etc. I like Bibarel and Tropius myself, although I'm sure there are better. Tropius was my favorite HM slave. Tropius is hm slave god. PSN: LARTCHEVEQUE. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. I find it most useful to filter "Hoenn only", and then sort by the rightmost column (total number learnable). (Water Types, so yeah) can get whatever you didn't give Tropius. Do you have any suggestions?For Pokemon Diamond Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Ideal HM Slave?". Switch FC: SW-6466-0014-8328. ago. I got to thinking about this last night and thought I would see what you guys thought. Such a Pokémon doesn't exist, of course, but this means that Pokémon closer to this ideal are the best. Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in. 1. . Houndoom was a must for Jynx, Blaziken was actually pretty useless through the game and I only used it because he looks cool. Dwell in peace in the home of your own being, and the messenger of Death will not be able to touch you. Chlorophyll plus solar beam, is a pure hax. I like Farfetch'd because he can learn Fly and Cut. best hm slaves? Pokemon Ruby Version Game Boy Advance. Bibarel and Tropius can learn all of them between the two. Thanks in advance. Between Tropius and any one of quite a few water Pokemon, you can get all 8 HMs. He's not for competitive battle, but females. . 19. He is such a cool design he just sucks in the games and ended up being really forgettable. Bibarel and Tropious are my HM slaves, and they too can learn all the HMs between them. bibarel and tropius. Lol, I used swampert for strength, waterfall, and surf. The other options are either Zapdos, Mew, Dragonite, or Charizard (in Yellow), all of which have better things to do besides being an HM user. ago. mister72 14 years ago #6. Tropius (HM Slave) If only I knew about Salamence earlier. Apparently, its love for fruit resulted in its own outgrowth of fruit. tropius strength flash fly rock smash with a tentacool you have em all. In the arena of logic, I fight un-armed. It’s a highly favored tropical snack. i used him in emerald by acident. May 15, 2012. See moreMy source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. And maybe some others, I'm not sure, but I am about those since that is the moveset for mine. My favorite HM slave has always been tropius. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and Flash (all the non-water HMs). I've got octillery (Cthulhu), houndoom (hell-hound), sableye (hobgoblin), galvantula (spider, duh), swoobat…I meant awesome looking. even a tropius and absol? Tropius flies and solarbeams, Absol has monster attack and Swords Dance. Tropius has Strength, Cut, Fly, Rock Smash. I might have to give Meganium the edge, though. Cut. Then used skarmory for cut, rock smash, and fly. My fav was a Mew I hacked back in the day on my pokemon red for the GB. Anyways, I think there COULD be a lot less HM's. Jul 26, 2007 #4 yeah he gets cut. 1 Crawdaunt. Bibarel can learn all HM's except Fly and Defog. . Toast. Callista08 7 years ago #2. Tropius, and Salamence. But now I'm in FireRed, who should I use? 3rd November 2004, 03:56 PM #2. Missingno evolved into Kangaskhan. Anything suggestions with all 8 are welcome. Hm slave Reply SamG1769420. This is a topic dumping on Tropius, but honestly, I think this topic is failing to appreciate what a true failure of a Pokemon Tropius is. ago. Fly is also usable in game, now that it is 90 base power, but don't use it competitively. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. The name Tropius should be Borelius or Borealius for the variant. Defog. I used Tropius and Psyduck myself. My tropius holds the same moveset as Flame. Hoenn FTW. There isn't a single mandatory cut tree though IIRC so strength would be better on a "I want to never get stuck and need to backtrack". Cut, Strength and Rock Smash are all interchangeable. Magmar, while outclassed as an HM Slave, can use its decent speed, offensive stats and movepool to reliably and quickly sweep the Elite 4, which is the fastest way of generating money in all Gen 3 games. Except the banana-saurus. Empoleon: Surf, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Cut. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. It can learn Cut, Fly, Defog, and Rock Smash. Since you need two pokemon to even hold all of the HMs, go with Tropius and Bibarel. RhydonAvailability is the most important thing for a good HM slave. For the other HMs get a Wailmer. ". For Pokemon Black Version 2 on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Rate My White Version 2 In Game Team". In my list,cIconly show HM slaves and their HM moves. . When you got her in the story they wanted you to send a pokemon back, so I sent my. But he still looks awesome. Not sure about Rock Smash, to be honest. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. Tropius has zero competitively useful sets in singles or doubles in pretty much any conceivable format. " SW-6321-4362-5535. If you are at or can get to Pastoria City, you're halfway there! You can catch both a Bibarel and a Tropius in the Great Marsh. EDIT: Aw, maybe I should have thrown Tropius a bone. ago. It evolves from Tropius with high friendship. Name: Wenitzb. Thanks guys. 3DS Friend Code: 3668-8577-0665. lol Fly. Teach him Flash and catch a Tentacruel for Strength and the water HMs. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:best hm slave(s) in this game; Dwhite_1 8 years ago #1. Also, there's only 8 usable HMs. While I was doing that I realized he. Jan 2, 2015. You can do better than that. I'd say use a Tropius HM slave. Apr 29, 2013 #1 Until HM moves are made unnecessary for going through the games their will always be pokemon who will only be caught for the sake of muling the. BW1 & BW2: Wailmer for water, Tropius for everything else X: The gift Lapras you get for water, my Fletchlinder for Flying (and breeding since it also had Flamebody), and Bibreal for the rest. HM Slave switches in and out of the team. Anyone know of an easily accessed hm slave that can learn cut and fly? (And defog too, but it ain't a big deal) I know tropius can learn both, but it comes kind of late in game I. Herpes the Clown is a very Itchy Fellow. ago. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. Use Flash to light up dark caves and use Dig to easily escape caves without using an escape rope! Hope I. Mew and Smeargle. 4. You find Tropius on 119, before you have the Fly HM or even access to the badge to use it. Pure water Samurott is just a really good add to your team anyway, and the water HMs are strong in battle, so you might as well use. and tropius (flash/secretpower, secretpower/fly, rocksmash, cut) If you have a hard time memorizing areas, you can leave fly on a pokemon, and just interchange flash and secretpower (since they both tm anyway) when you need them. hyahyahyahya • 4 mo. Shiny lvl 100. zigoon best hm slave in hoeen. "You either die a noob, or live long enough to see yourself become a hacker. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. Because it's annoying having HM slaves, I cheated a big and traded over the two for my playthrough SoulSilver. Whatever the choice, don't be that guy who constantly switches Pokemon in and out the PC every time you need to use an HM move. of course i don't. You will need to breed a female Tropius with a compatible male Pokémon, with the male (for Gen 2-5) knowing the egg move in question. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. BANANYAN was Patterrz's starter, & his main Pokémon during the run, later joined by Kenya the Magmar. DIVE WATERFALL STRENGTH ROCK SMASH on Gyarados. Fruitius is an interesting thing to say the least. Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Cut. It's always nice to have an ability that works outside of battle on a pokemon that you wouldn't dream of battling with. Second, you want the HM Slaves that complement your party. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. Top. Drifblim - Col. Corn (Shiny so it looks like a kernel of corn) Garchomp - Super joe (From Commando and Bionic Commando) Female Garchomp - Honey Porygon2 - Bluebyrd (A kind of Plum, and another name for Duck sauce is Plum sauce, also it's shiny so it's blue) Porygon-z - Kid Dynamo Female Scizor - Vanessa (Scizor is a Mantis, Orchid Mantis is a. - It has a terrible movepool. Cut. . Bibarel is the best HM slave the game has ever seen, and you can get Bidoof the second you start the playthrough. "Welcome to Bururaji! This is Ragna the Bloodedge, Sugita Tomokazu! HARDCORE! HARDCORE!" - Sugita Tomokazu, BlazBlue Radio. Dragonite, Mew, Tropius, Salamence, Giratina, Arceus, Smeargle Surf / Whirlpool / Waterfall / Rock Climb : Blastoise, Golduck, Poliwrath, Omastar, Kabutops, Mew, Feraligatr, Suicune, Swampert. Waterfall- Goldeen and Seaking can already learn it. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. 55 votes, 30 comments. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. metroidfan987 9 years ago #16. Tropius - cut - fly - flash - strength/rock smash Water Pokemon - surf - dive - waterfall - strength/rock smash *Means that they don't get strength or rock smash, but they get another HM (Tentacool - cut, Chinchou - flash) that Tropius can also learn so Tropius can double up on strength and rock smash and the water can use the other HM. I generally am not a fan of the move fly so I like having someone else to do that. . Tropius cannot be obtained in Pearl outside the Pal Park. Between those, I can get all the utility moves I need on two Pokémon. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "breloom any good in comparison to Tropius?". Gyarados for surf/waterfall/dive/strength. There are 8 HMs so i'm guessing i would need one with wings to fly and another sorry little. themasterpikmin 8 years ago #2. Please don't mention mew, I don't have one, but any two that are great HM slaves would be much appreciated thanks. Give him Fly, Rock Smash, Strength, and Cut. Bibarel is an extremely good HM slave, but he's only found in Gen 4. Bibarel by pretty much. . Cut/Rock Smash/Dive/Strength- They should just be turned into regular moves. Tropius is a bit hard to find. Because it's annoying having HM slaves, I cheated a big and traded over the two for my playthrough SoulSilver. Gyarados is a classic HM slave, it can learn Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Dive, which is all except Fly. knows false. Bibaral is the GOAT HM slave. Also looks like a boss. Tropius needs fly and defog while Bibarel needs waterfall and surf. Sets up my Samurott for a guaranteed outspeed Rain Dance Mystic Water STAB, or itself, because Hurricane always hits in Rain. Marill Surf Dive Waterfall Strenght. Reply. garydose (watefall gives it one of the very few advantages that it can wreck with a HM) dragonite (1 of the 2 pokemon that learn every HM) arceus (a third pokemon that learns all HM's In the 4th gen ) hydrigon. Pokemon Platinum Version. They just need to make him Grass/Dragon already. Reaction score. 3 Crobat. linoone - strength, cut, rock smash tropius - fly, secret power wailord - dive, surf, waterfall MarioGalaxyR0X 9 years ago #7 Tropius/Golduck is actually an excellent combo: Tropius Fly Cut Strength Rock Smash Golduck Surf Waterfall Dive Flash TROPIUS AND CHANDELURE!!!!! Yes! I am so damn pumped! Goodra is also a great choice! I am meh on Intelion. One word. The only HM moves worth using in competitive battle are Surf and Waterfall. when you get to route 119, catch a Tropius and use it as your hm slave. I like Bibarel and Tropius myself, although I'm sure there are better. Siege mode! It is probably the best slave choice in the game in terms of giving mobility on the map. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius". What Are HM Slaves in Pokémon? The Pokémon fandom developed the term "HM slave" for creatures you don't really intend to train, but who occupy a slot in your roster for their field-navigating HM (Hidden Machine) techniques. Hope this. A samurott can learn all the HMs except fly. Gyarados, zigzagoon/linoone, bidoof/bibarrel, tropius, and even samurott. The main difference is that Crawdaunt learns Cut, while Ludicolo learns Flash. Most Grass and Water pokemon cover those 4 plus Waterfall together. Tropius - Cut / Fly / Strength / Rock Smash Rayquaza - Fly / Surf / Strength / Waterfall / Rock Smash / Dive Fast Money Trainer's Eye: When rematching these trainers, you will automatically face their strongest team if you have defeated the Elite Four. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. 135 votes, 75 comments. He can learn Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. Toast. WhiteBladeMarth 12 years ago #2. Then you just need any water type that gets Surf/Waterfall/Dive and maybe Flash/Secret Power for good measure!This, normally, includes two pokemon that I use as slaves, because during the whole adventure, I like that they get all the HMs. Tbh I'll never regret buying the HM flutes, so nice not having an HM slave. Other possible HM Pokemons are: Marill, Tropius, Psyduck, Nidoking, Pelipper, Pikachu, Dragonite, Swampert, Bibarel,. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. Sharpedo is objectively the best. good hm slave. Since the TC is actually going to use Tropius, I don't see what the HM slave sets have to do with the topic at hand. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. ago. Staravia (lvl 22): Defog, Fly. 1. H. Surf and fly are good so I don't care giving it to good Pokemon. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. 25: (slave) Cut Fly Strength Rock Smash. Defog. Wenitzb. Skarmory is also a recommed HM slave because he can learn cut, fly, defog and rock smash meaning u can learn other important HM for the other 3. This week's Pokémon is Tropius! #357 Tropius (Japanese トロピウス Tropius) Fruit Pokémon. For Pokemon Alpha Sapphire on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "What pokemon are the best HM slaves for this game?" - Page 3. Chinchou has Surf, Waterfall, Dive, Flash. Tropius is in the Great Marsh. I ended up using Latias as my HM Slave. Fantastic. Oct 14, 09 at 7:47pm (PST) ^. Bibarel+Tropius get all HM's. A poké with a full fucking arsenal of HM moves is more than that. As for HM slaves, Bibarel and Tropius can learn all 8 combined (Tropius - Fly, Defog, Cut, Rock Climb / Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Strength, Rock Smash). I have used Azumarill, Zigzagoon/Linoone, Geodude/Graveler, Dragonite, Lapras, Wailord, Tropius, Seaking, and a few others.